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26 Feb, 2008

Does “Free” Entrecard Marketing Help or Hinder? Should Businesses be Interested?

Posted by: Singapore Entrepreneur In: Up for Discussion

We all like FREE stuff but at the end of the day (especially as businesses) we need to look at the bottom line and properly analyze if all the supposedly FREE stuff actually costs much more than we thought.

TIME COST
Ultimately, the most important cost consideration when it comes to “free” marketing with EC pertains to our most limited resource: time. More and more Entrecarders are finding the time spent on the EC network to maintain brand identity to be quite prohibitive. Some spend 3 to 4 hours each day just dropping cards, making rounds in the forums, commenting, and helping other EC members out. Thus, many have become willing to pay someone for their EC credits instead of racking up their own because their time is worth much more than the going rate of .01/EC

More importantly, the time spent on FREE stuff is also time lost on seriously thinking, planning or working out marketing strategies that can bring in more sales. However, for a lot of EC members, their efforts have actually resulted in sales, so this means spending time on the FREE stuff, in their case, was worth it.

BRANDING COST
Another cost is branding cost. Does advertising on obviously FREE spots diminish your brand value? For example, would seeing NEIMAN MARCUS, SONY, or GUCCI advertising on either the EC or Spottt network make you think less of them?

For me, it definitely would- IF you’re already an established brand name. Pro-bloggers who think they are too big a name for EC are misguided if they think they are famous and have permanent mind-share as 160,000 blogs are entering the webspace each day, and I would hazard to guess that half of them are simply duplicating the most visited content on the web.

RESIDUAL EFFECTS
For many EC members, their experience has been that once you stop participating in the network, the traffic stops almost immediately. In other words, there is very little residual effect, hardly any peripheral benefits. Having said that, running ads through the google ad network would probably yield very similar results. Many EC members who have since left the system or stopped actively participating insist however that the paid ads are many times better in bringing in interested parties who are more likely to stay and continue to be readers or customers.

I have to say that my own experience is that the traffic drop can be significant once you stop actively recriprocating drops. But at the same time, the initial traffic spike because of EC was also significant and roughly sustained over 2 months, so perhaps it is still premature to talk about residual effects when EC has only been around for a few months.

SHOULD BUSINESSES LOOK AT EC SERIOUSLY?
All said, is EC something that businesses should look at as an effective marketing tool at the end of the day? I think the answer would be “NO” based on the analysis stated above. It is too time consuming (thus costly) and can diminish brand values (by association to smaller, sometimes freakish / bordering on porn blogs). As the residual effects based on the current system of drive-by-dropping to earn credits is still in question, I will leave that off the table for now. But I have to conclude that EC is a personal bloggers marketing & networking tool more than anything else.

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39 Responses to "Does “Free” Entrecard Marketing Help or Hinder? Should Businesses be Interested?"

1 | Josh

February 27th, 2008 at 3:07 am

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I like this article a lot. I actually stopped dropping cards and focused more on the forums and received a lot more traffic and higher cost to advertise.

Josh’s last blog post..Goals are a great marketing tool

2 | Turnip

February 27th, 2008 at 4:01 am

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TIME COST
One key to being successful in entrecard is being active in the community. Dropping cards is one way to demonstrate that. Once a person’s site is bookmarked by other entrecarders, then they can sit back and drop less if that’s their desire. People have to expect to spend hours on a blog networking to make it successful. Entrecard just makes that networking more efficient. Without Entrecard you’d be convincing people to stop by your site just to read and comment, with Entrecard they come to drop a card, then read and comment.

For those that want the traffic without putting in the time dropping, they need to demonstrate some other method of community involvement. Buying credits, advertising, forum posts, contests, writing a program or plugin worked for some. I make $40 as a consultant and can work an unlimited number of hours currently. So any time spent dropping actually costs me money I could be billing out. So why invest the time? My blog is another aspect of my consulting business. Looking at over 300 blogs a day, I see what works and what doesn’t.

RESIDUAL EFFECTS
The people that left had poor networking skills to begin with. Some of them were known bandwagon marketers. Jump on whatever bus John Chow is driving, then cry when it didn’t stop at the bank. I have no doubt if Entrecard folded tomorrow my blog would continue on. Though fewer in numbers, I’d keep most of my serious readers, minus the casual droppers. Most of my online money is made outside my blog, so it wouldn’t effect my income. Those who participate in the reciprical dropping schemes suffer the most when they stop dropping. I keep a list of bookmarks independant of any outside influence. So put yourself on my list if you are afraid someone won;t visit anymore. I keep dropping as long as you keep updating your blog.

BRANDING COST
You would see well known product ads if Entrecard allowed 3rd party ads. By that I mean ads that lead to merchants as opposed to blogs. So whatever Project Wonderful ads you see in Entrecard, those are the people anxious to advertise within the network but can’t. I’d love to run my own ads on the network in exchange for credits if I could.

SHOULD BUSINESSES LOOK AT EC SERIOUSLY?
Yes, for several reasons. First, You have 5000 people all trying to promote a blog. So anyone looking to target that market has a captive audience. Second, it would be easy for a business to create an instant buzz in that community. If tomorrw Amazon said “Well except Entrecredits in exchange for merchandise” I bet a few people would blog and talk about it. Adtoll, an advertising agency, has already done this. Just wait for an affiliate company to merge with Entrecard. All Graham has to do is slap 2 Entrecards together into a vertical or horizontal block, and he has an instant space to sell anything. Watch out shareasale and Commission Junction.

Turnip’s last blog post..NoFollow Version 1.5.2 Released

3 | Michael Aulia

February 27th, 2008 at 7:03 am

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It is time consuming, but it’s also addiciting. It’s like playing a game, you can spend hours and hours of it, but you have this satisfaction feeling :D

But I guess if you are a pure business kind of person, you won’t have much time playing around with Entrecard

Michael Aulia’s last blog post..My first property investment (Part III – Forming the right team)

4 | Beth

February 27th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

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I was invited to comment and as we all know, I never hold back my opinions on anything. I agree with every point made in the post, although I have a different view of the Branding aspect.

TIME COST: This is the most misunderstood factor of EntreCard, especially those who almost expect you to drop 200+ cards a day. Simply put, not everyone has 3-4 hours to spend on a task that may, or may not bring in traffic, readers, sales, etc. Sure, I could use any of the scripts that are popping up to “make dropping easier,” but what good does that do me, or the other blogger? Let’s say you drop 200 cards in one day. For those 200 drops, you might receive a 40% reciprocal rate, but it’s only one unique blogger viewing your site at any given time, meaning, only the blogger you dropped a card on returns to your site. Now, if you would spend 45 minutes or less of the “card dropping time,” and instead actually read through a blog and commented, this has a more powerful effect. Why? A: It let’s the blogger know you’re reading. B: Other bloggers not only view your comment and know you read, but they see your blog URL as well. If you return to the blogs you comment on and become active, others see this and visit your blog as well. Call it the old fashioned way of social networking-becoming involved in conversations on other blogs. To me, this worth more of my time than dropping one card over and over every day on the same blogs. It may be a longer process to market your blog, but people can at least get to know you-and not a 125×125 badge.

BRANDING COST: I have a different take on this, although I understand the original thought. For me, this would depend on the “brand.” I don’t consider any pro-blogger as a brand, thus they’re irrelevant. In the end they’re bloggers, just as everyone else, but with sticks up their hind-quarters. Enough said on that. As for actual brand names- it would depend on the company. Would I think less of Macy’s if they wanted to advertise via a free service? No- a legitimate business wanting to take advantage of free advertising-cuts marketing costs and goes across a network of thousands of bloggers. Do I see a company of that stature doing so? Most likely not. But-start-up, (and the keyword here is legitimate), online businesses, web hosts, tech related/software sites, yes I see them taking full advantage of the system. A crude and time consuming task-but free. I have an uncle who owns a multi-million dollar business and we were talking about marketing online the other day, (he knows about my blog and asked about ProjectWonderful when he saw me on the site) and he said had the Internet been an option when he started the business 25 years ago, he could have saved thousands on marketing/advertising costs. As I said, the key to this is what the brand is, if it’s legitimate and the type.

RESIDUAL EFFECTS: This is hit or miss. I haven’t dropped but a few cards within the last few days due to, well, not enough time to do so. I have, however, participated in the forums and commented on other blogs, (which is where I’ve dropped my 2-5 cards the last few days), and my ad price has gone up. I don’t know why- other than the fact that I have chosen to participate in ways other than dropping simply for credits. The residual effects of EntreCard have proven to be the most frustrating concept for me to get across to others. EntreCard isn’t just dropping cards, accumulating credits, reciprocating and determining the going rate to sell credits to those who “don’t have time.” It’s about finding other blogs of interest to you, being an active reader and commenter on those blogs, which in turn not only brings traffic but new readers. I view EC as a way to network with bloggers outside of my realm. One blog has the potential to bring me 3 new active readers if I find it interesting and have valid content to add in the comments. Their regulars can become your regulars. The residual effects can be two-fold if you allow it to be-this comes back to 99.9% of bloggers being selfish and only in it for themselves-but in order to survive you have to give back in some way or EC, or any type of marketing/social networking service will never work for you.

SHOULD BUSINESSES LOOK AT EC SERIOUSLY?: This goes back to branding and as I stated, it depends on the business, if it’s a legitimate business and the amount of time/effort the business is willing to put into it. Although Project Wonderful isn’t a free service, BlueHost purchased a spot on my blog for 2 days, paying me a total of $1.40. I see this as a smart move on their part and although they didn’t have to drop cards to get the spot, they still had to search through the blogs to find which to advertise on in order to give them more bang for their buck-literally. Do I look at them in a different light? Not in the least- a smart marketing move by a well known web-host company.

Now, this response has taken me 30 minutes to type, in between answering the phone and taking a tinkle break- I don’t have much time to participate in the forums or drop more cards. :D

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

5 | BizGiftGuru

February 27th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

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I did find few interesting blogs through entrecard. But to get an audience is quite difficult unless you blog about blogging or making money by blogging. I see that in several categories the most “expensive” blogs are blogs that actually outside entrecard do not mean that much. They are just a land to pass by and drop on …

My recommendation would be by all means spend few hours a day for few weeks to find the blogs you like and bloggers you enjoy interacting with, and forget about others. After that drop only 5 or 10 cards a day on blogs that really matter to you and use the time you save on exploring other ways how to promote your blog. Entrecard is OK tool, but it is only one of the tools. If you keep on spending hours a day dropping cards, you will have no time to focus on your contents and moreover, for all your efforts you will keep receiving visitors that do not even care about your contents.

There are so many blogs that cost 100 – 300 credits to advertise on, that haven’t been updated for weeks, there are many that have no new contents except the latest meme or contest just to get an entry to that contest. No original stuff. And they keep getting hundreds of drops – clear sign people do not get care what is there, they are just there to drop their droppings. Entrecard has become sort of Blogexplosion 2.0 – a bit more interaction, but about the same quality of traffic and same time effort to get that.

6 | Boss

February 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

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@ Everyone: Great discussion going on guys … I think this is one of the most important benefits about EC that you wouldn’t get just doing paid advertising.

@ Turnip & Beth: Thanks for taking the time to write a comment as long as my post :D. I agree, YOU’RE BOTH RIGHT about the BUSINESSES interest in EC. I should have qualified my statement. For businesses, especially if they are TECH related in any way, they could benefit greatly from marketing to the targeted community. I’m thinking that marketing directly to the database would also be another effective way of selling in addition to placing an ad to replace the “E” beside/below everyone’s widget.

@BizGiftGuru: Totally agree that the traffic is skewed towards make money online blah blogs and lots of crap blogs out there. Even in my category, business, many of the blogs are actually “make money online” blogs which has its own category. Most of them also give very bad or outdated SEO advice because they’re probably just copying. (Yes, I belong to the few that do read when they drop :D)

7 | Beth

February 27th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

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@BizGiftGuru-you prove my entire point with this statement:

“I see that in several categories the most “expensive” blogs are blogs that actually outside entrecard do not mean that much. They are just a land to pass by and drop on”

Then don’t drop on them and they wouldn’t go up in price. I don’t think anyone ever said you had to like every blog out there and I do agree that a few blogs do nothing but post about EntreCard-and before signing up with the service had very little going for them. This goes back to a statement I made in the forums and on my blog- people see the “popular” blogs and automatically assume they possess some sort of authority and several of the bloggers have taken on that persona, when in fact the only authority they have is coming from EntreCard. Although Alexa numbers aren’t always reliable, all you have to do is check a blog’s rank within the last 2-3 months-most didn’t even register a rank until they began using the service. Are these blogs, “just land to pass by?” It depends on your interest in the topic and perhaps a little research on the blog itself to check the post frequency, interaction via comments, rankings and traffic. I do take offense to this somewhat because I have stayed in the top 5 or 6 blogs in my category, yet I was already established before I started EC. I’ve never claimed to be an authority on anything, I blog about what I have always blogged about and go on with my business. I’ve only tried to get people to see the other valuable resources EC could offer if they would stop worrying about credits and card drops.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

8 | Turnip

February 27th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

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“BlueHost purchased a spot on my blog”
Interesting, the president of Google purchased an ad on my blog. He calls it AdWords. But now I’m having second thoughts and suspect it might be an affiliate ad.

Turnip’s last blog post..Entrecard’s Graham Langdon Interviewed

9 | Beth

February 27th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

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Turnip, why do you have to be such an ass? Oh, wait, I forgot, you’re an authority because your ad spots cost an arm and a leg. Yes, it was BlueHost and not an affiliate ad because I checked it out when I noticed it because I wasn’t going to allow affiliate sites to advertise. No redirection and no affiliate link not to mention you can view the ad’s buyer profile. There are quite a few businesses using Project Wonderful because I’ve had several buy spots on the bottom skyscraper.

You have issues with me giving my opinion and I for one, do not apologize. I have not followed you around making rude comments in response to your comments, yet you have done so not only on my blog, but this one and the EC forums. We have different views on blogging and go about the “business end” differently. Simple as that- if you don’t like what I, or other bloggers have to say, then don’t read. I’m not the only one who has complained-trust me.

I was invited to add my opinion to this post, which I did. Your pompous remarks are uncalled for-end of story.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

10 | BizGiftGuru

February 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm

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my intention was not to say that all the popular blogs on Entrecard are not good. I did not mean to offend anybody with good and interesting blogs that are high up the ranks. In fact few blogs that I would probably never would have found if not for Entrecard are now my daily reads and they do rank most of the time among the top 3 in business and marketing categories.

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11 | Boss

February 28th, 2008 at 12:00 am

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@Bizgiftguru: I don’t think Beth took offense. Did you? I thought she was just making a point.

@Turnip: Hey, Google’s President also bought ads on my site :D What a coincidink.

@Beth: It’s good to have some friction in my opinion. I wouldn’t take Turnip’s remarks too much to heart as I think a lot of times when he makes sarcastic comments he’s just being like Sam and wanting to ruffle feathers to get or keep things moving.

12 | Turnip

February 28th, 2008 at 12:13 am

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No, I’m an authority because I get all my traffic from running copyrighted Maxine Cartoons. Shall I write Hallmark and ask if they gave permission? Congratulations, Project Wonderful shows all your traffic sources. I have no issues with you doing anything, I just disagree with your opinion. I’d hope everyone that uses Entrecard shows a leap in traffic, or why else would they use it? Since most of the blogs didn’t even exist a year ago, I’d expect them to show little in the way of Alexa scores. Take a look at the A-list bloggers. Some of them weren’t even around. As for you taking offense; that act got old long ago. Grow up and learn to deal with people. Sooner or later one of your co-workers will read your blog.

Turnip’s last blog post..Entrecard’s Graham Langdon Interviewed

13 | BizGiftGuru

February 28th, 2008 at 12:48 am

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no, no offense. I am actually finding this debate quite entertaining :-)
but after reading the comments I thought that may be better if I explain better what I meant. my first comment actually did sound a bit too harsh on ALL entrecard high flyers and that was not the intention

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14 | evilwoobie

February 28th, 2008 at 2:40 am

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ok i wasnt invited to comment, but i am checking this blog out for a guest post on my blog.

It’s a warzone here. And seriously, for what? Who has more marketing knowledge?
Everyone is an authority in something, even the people with their thoughts in books admit that they dont know everything.

My personal goal in Entrecard, besides the wonderful traffic, is to LEARN. Where else can you find aggressive bloggers all talking at once? The point is that, people cover a certain part of marketing and others cover other stuff…

@topic
How attractive is it for businesses to be able to control 3k ++ aggressive, talkative bloggers? A single affiliate incentive could get all these blogs talking about their products! For me, that’s the power of Entrecard. if given the right motivation, you have an internet army.

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15 | sukosaki

February 28th, 2008 at 2:43 am

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I think that any marketing is good marketing. Free or not, if I can get my name or blog out there without having to spend $$$, I will. The bad part about free marketing is that you aren’t really getting a loyal reader, every time, or even getting any feedback from these users.

sukosaki’s last blog post..Make Money With Referrals, Part 2

16 | Beth

February 28th, 2008 at 6:19 am

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@Turnip:

Seriously, stop trying to act like Sam, whom I’ve since agreed with on several points he has made regarding the usage of EntreCard. As far as “my traffic sources from Project Wonderful” and “running copyrighted Maxine Cartoons- this only confirms that fact you have never taken time to read my blog, you’ve only tried digging to find something you hate about it. I do give credit to the creator of the Maxine Cartoon. Find it and report back to me. Did I intend to gain traffic from the cartoons? Absolutely not. In fact, I began using the cartoons as a way to describe, in picture form, the topic I was going to write about or the mood of the post-3 years ago when I changed domains. I’ve also used funny pictures of people and objects which gain the blog traffic via Google’s Image Search. Should I stop this as well? I also wouldn’t rely on Project Wonderful as a good source to judge someone’s traffic. It has yet to show the real numbers of traffic I receive from Technorati, MSN, Ask, DogPile-etc.

As for your remark about my co-workers reading my blog? Is this a threat? I start a new job Monday and unlike you and many other bloggers, I won’t have access to the Internet so I can drop cards all day and write posts, wasting the money of my employer by blogging on their time. What is so funny, I state in my resume that I blog for profit in my spare time, (under the “Interests section, not as a real job), and the woman who hired me wanted to know about blogging. I showed her my blog-she loves the idea and I’ve been helping her via email in setting up her first blog. She has read my blog and I’m still employed. Sorry to disappoint you in that area.

Telling someone to grow up is a weak defense. I have responded to the attacks about my blog and my opinions in a responsible manner, which brings me to the fact- have I gone to your blog, picked out what I didn’t like about it, view your traffic sources and report back to tell the world that a vast majority of your traffic comes from EntreCard and not other sources, like search engines? (And when I say vast, I mean almost all of your traffic). No, I haven’t. Until now.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

17 | Beth

February 28th, 2008 at 9:28 am

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@woobie:

I never intended the discussion to become a “war.” I was asked to add my thoughts to the post, so I did. Someone disagrees and the personal attacks on my blog began-keep in mind not once did I even mention a particular person or blog- I only responded with my opinion on the original post. But once someone disagrees and starts the attacks, yes I will defend my opinions. I have never claimed to be an authority in anything-which was my entire point to begin with. I don’t pretend to be 100% knowledgeable in anything and I have said that. My blog isn’t even in the same niche as the others-in fact my blog really has no niche since I discuss various subjects. So, no, I’m not saying I know more than the next person.

@sukosaki- I agree, although any type of viral marketing, free or paid, won’t gain the long-term readers one wants and needs in order for a blog to be successful. (Speaking in numbers). Some will stay, some will go. It’s like I said in my responses, you need to do more than just drop a card to really market your blog.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

18 | Turnip

February 28th, 2008 at 9:37 am

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Yes, I’m aware you post the phrase “All Rights Reserved” without ever looking up the meaning. Here it is straight from Hallmark legal. Linking doesn’t cut it when you blatantly use the cartoon on pages with advertising:

COPYRIGHT
All content included on this site, such as E-Cards, text, graphics, logos, icons, photos, products, audio clips, digital downloads, data compilations, and software, is the property of Hallmark.com or its content suppliers and is protected by United States and international copyright laws. The compilation of all content on this site is the exclusive property of Hallmark.com and is protected by U.S. and international copyright laws. You may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, display, incorporate into another web site, or in any other way exploit any of the content, in whole or in part without the specific permission of Hallmark.com. This prohibition includes, but is not limited to, the use of any proprietary Hallmark characters such as Maxine, hoops&yoyo, Revilo, and Asteroid Andy on any website, in e-mails, or in other media without express written permission from Hallmark.

Turnip’s last blog post..Entrecard’s Graham Langdon Interviewed

19 | evilwoobie

February 28th, 2008 at 10:48 am

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@sukosaki
Absolutely disagree!
Entrecard is free marketing, but the most loyal readers my blog got after 5 months of life is from this network of fellow bloggers who know how to read.
I get feedback, lots of em from entrecard users… feedbacks regarding my content, my design, my marketing style, the SEO things… stuff that I wont even notice if not pointed out directly. And I listen well because somehow, I know that these guys know a lot more than I do. I take their advice and give it my own twist. That’s loyal readership because they really are observing how i’d do things.

Entrecard members aren’t ordinary traffic, they are bloggers who are as hungry as I am with getting loyal readers. Bloggers who will talk about me if I talk about them too… punish me if i do something unruly etc. There’s a lot of opportunities to network and create connections that may benefit a blog in the long run.

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20 | Beth

February 28th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

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@Turnip:

You’ll resort to anything to make yourself look like a big-time blogger. Do this- go to Google and do a search for “Maxine Cartoons”-you’ll find about 40,000+ pages that not only reference the cartoon but post them as well. I also receive them via email. Should I stop opening my email now as well? Are you so jealous that you have to resort to blasting my blog because I use a cartoon? And you’re the one who told me to grow up? What about the other sites listed in the search results who have the cartoons along with advertising? Are you going to go to each site and inform them as well? I don’t go to Hallmark and copy the cartoons. They’re passed to me via email by several people, including readers of my blog. Since you seem to have so much time on your hands, do you want their email addresses so you can inform them of the copyright rules too? If I was making money from the use of the cartoon itself that would be different. I don’t use the likeness to profit in any way. Oh and for the record, out of well over 1000 posts on my blog, only 19 of those have a Maxine cartoon associated with it. But I’m sure you knew that already since you like picking apart my blog.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

21 | Turnip

February 28th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

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That’s a cute argument, blame your readers instead of the publisher. So if you republish Harry Potter on your website, it’s the fault of the person who gave you the book for Christmas? I posted the copyright law. Deal with it. It’s between you and Hallmark now. If they take your opinion, then they won’t bother enforcing it.

Turnip’s last blog post..Entrecard’s Graham Langdon Interviewed

22 | Beth

February 28th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

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@Turnip

Is it your mission to steep so low and attempt to destroy a blog that you have to act like a 12 year old kid? I’m not even competition to you, considering we don’t blog about the same topics. All Hallmark would do is tell me to remove the cartoons. Ok, that can be done. As far as blame? I wasn’t laying blame on anyone- I was telling you where the cartoons came from-good God man get a life and fast. If you think by contacting Hallmark, (because I know you have-that’s how spiteful you seem to be), you’ll some how lessen my traffic- then get over it. It won’t work. Why? Because I can write original thoughts and ideas, whereas, you, among others, jump on the bandwagon of the whole “marketing guru” surge and repeat what others have said. I also don’t understand why you’re so defensive when it comes to me stating my opinions, other than the fact I pointed out, after you accused me of “having advertising all over my blog” that you were not only selling t-shirts, but charging people a fortune for EC credits as well. Stop trying to act like a big time blogger like I said- and be real. If this is the real you, then I feel sorry for you, since you obviously have nothing better going on in life.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

23 | money making blogger

February 28th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

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It takes me 30 minutes to drop 300 cards.

24 | Monkey Tale

February 28th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

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I’m pleased with entrecard so far. My traffic has increased a bunch on all 3 blogs I have listed there. Two of the blogs have picked up many people who are actually taking the time to read my drivel as well. That in itself is gratifying to me.

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25 | Lady Rose

February 28th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

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I don’t know enough about marketing and all that stuff, but to add my 2 cents – EC is a great way for me to find blogs I’m interested in and adds a bit of fun too – on days I have time I make the rounds and drop on all that dropped on me and all my favorites and new blogs that catch my eye. The one’s I comment on or want to read I bookmark and return – I probalby wouldn’ t have found these with EC.

So I think if you have a quality blog, EC is a good way to build up lots of traffic which will increase long term readers too – sure a big percentage will be drive by droppers – but those few who become regular readers are worth the effort.

26 | Nikolai

February 28th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

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I also look at entrecard as an addictive “game” that wastes lots of my time. The time that could have been better spent on leaving blog comments or writing content. The traffic from EC is well the word begins with the letter “c” and ends with the letter “p”. I am keeping it for now as I am not tired of dropping cards yet. But the moment I stop dropping cards, I will remove the EC widget.

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27 | More on Enterecard system | Online Business Life ~ OBlife.com

February 28th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

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28 | Sam Freedoms Internet Marketing Controversy Blog

February 28th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

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@Turnip

Yea, stop acting like me, dammit. lol Dude, it’s like a case of verbal herpes. If you don’t just stop, the voice will embed itself in your mind and return every once in a while of its own accord. Besides, Hallmark isn’t paying you enough.

@Beth

You have a very funny way of bringing this sort of thing upon yourself. You don’t realize it but just in your way of dealing with it actually perpetuates it. If you want someone to really stop, you stop. In any case, I have to commend you for another stellar contradiction. The first one was benefiting from something that originated from me while simultaneously insulting me and this one was mentioning how we have agreed on a couple of things while simultaneously asking someone to not act like me.

I don’t take offense. I am grateful for the entertainment.

Will the frog eat baked turnip for dinner? Or will the Turnip have frog’s legs instead? We shall see… we shall see….

Sam

Sam Freedoms Internet Marketing Controversy Blog’s last blog post..Scientology and The Secret – Perils On the Way to Your First $100 Month

29 | Beth

February 28th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

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@Sam

Please- you said all along you weren’t upset about the fact that I didn’t link back to you in the “meme fiasco” -but you just admitted it. And I don’t remember insulting you-although you went out of your way to insult me.-just as Turnip is doing. I’m not sure how you can say I brought this on myself when I was asked to respond to a POST -Turnip disagreed and the games began. Neither of you can debate, or discuss like adults- all either of you do is call the other person childish or any other adjective you can think of. I did agree with you on several points you made in the forums and what’s so odd- I put the entire meme incident behind me. When I am attacked on a personal level for giving an opinion on the ideas of another person, then yes I will state my defense. I’ve yet to see either of you compliment or agree with anyone, unless, of course, they agree with you. It’s like 2 little boys who built a treehouse, started their own club, pricked their fingers and became blood brothers, only allowing those who are “followers” to join the club. I take you, Sam, with a grain of salt. Turnip on the other hand had no reason to continue the attacks, did he? I was taught to take a stand on any issue/s I felt were important to me, or when someone was attacking my character without knowing me. I can guarantee both of you would realize I’m not the demon you want to make me out to be if you were to discuss something one on one without an audience.

Beth’s last blog post..BlogWriters-A New Social Network

30 | The Chronicles of the Geek Riddler | ahkong.net

February 28th, 2008 at 6:57 pm

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31 | Boss

February 28th, 2008 at 7:11 pm

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Oh that is just hilarious. The google ad that shows when I look at this long comments section is THERE WILL BE BLOOD, the movie! :D

@Sam: I think Beth is having Turnip because he said he won’t be posting anymore (as stated in the forum). I had a good chuckle about the turnip and the frog legs comment because they’re really good food here in Singapore and you made me think about going to get some.

@Nikolai: I hear ya. It can be darn addictive and suddenly your kids have grown up and you haven’t noticed.

@Monkey Tale and Lady Rose: Glad EC is doing wonders for your blogs and bringing in readers. I’ve certainly made a few friends and am quite happy with the EC benefits. It’s just the “business” side of things that I am bringing into question, if its worth it, as a business.

@Money Making Blogger: Hah, I bet commenting on this post though has added 30 seconds to your speed dropping prowess

@Evilwoobie: “EC is not ordinary traffic” – you got that right, lots of extraordinary people. Seriously.

@Sukosaki: You mean if you pay for an ad that reader will be more loyal than someone who came in through free marketing? Do you have any data supporting this?

32 | evilwoobie

February 28th, 2008 at 9:20 pm

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EC is a blogger’s nook. Joining means exposing your stuff to people who will critique you, joke about you, compliment you, praise you and imitate you. If you stop dropping cards, does that mean you also stop going to other blogs to read? Dropping cards is a chore only if you disregard the fact that you are also supporting other bloggers by visiting.

If you refuse to participate and hate it that people are visiting your blog with the possibility of being your fan or your detractor, then by all means, remove the widget. A hundred more active blogs will be more than willing to take up your spot in the server.

@beth
I read your posts in forums and I can see why your style could affect other marketers. You have a way of simultaneously bragging about your traffic and scoffing at the marketing efforts of others, and I don’t just mean turnip and Sam… while acting like a marketer yourself by telling people how you earn from your blog. That’s my opinion. You put yourself out there and invite people to focus on what you do. Taken in a positive way, this is actually benefiting you. If I give you advice, will you also bite my head off? :D I’ll tell you anyway.

You may hate these guys’ guts, but that shouldn’t stop you from considering their opinions like “hmm, maybe they have a point”. Defend yourself all you want, and that’s the way to do it, really, but don’t forget how you’re a blogger and your blog is public, your stats are public, and everything else you write about. Take their criticism of your blog like a COMPLIMENT because they actually took the time to research where your traffic is coming from and read on what kind of posts you put out (including the Maxine cartoons and the way you make fun of your officemates in your blog).

evilwoobie’s last blog post..Making things BLOOM in Cambodia

33 | money making blogger

February 28th, 2008 at 10:03 pm

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Visit my blog read the post about how to capitalize, make money on entrecard.

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34 | Sam Freedoms Internet Marketing Controversy Blog

February 29th, 2008 at 2:28 am

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@woobie – LAW NUMBER 7,526…!

Sam Freedoms Internet Marketing Controversy Blog’s last blog post..Scientology and The Secret – Perils On the Way to Your First $100 Month

35 | Mike White

February 29th, 2008 at 3:24 am

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Man, if I wasn’t the “nice” guy I’d… ah… forget it… I’m basically commenting so I can subscribe to the comments by e-mail anyway. ;)

36 | Lee

February 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pm

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Ive not read any of the comments above but I would like to say that I agree with most of everything you said.

I have invested a lot of time in this brand… It is more of a hobby now. If i can make a small bit of money for hosting then that’s all good…. I am sure brands can find better ways of getting bigger.

But for personal type blogs its amazing… and i would say its more of a community then anything.

I love EC

Lee’s last blog post..Blog of the week #4

37 | Boss

March 1st, 2008 at 12:13 pm

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@Mike
You’re too late. Turnip has said he won’t comment anymore and Beth has left EC altogether. The attacks became too personal.

@Lee
Glad you like EC. I do too. Just that as a business, it’s too costly. But for making friends (or in the case of the comments above-enemies), two thumbs up. You’ve certainly made an impression with the rest of the members with your high profile both in dropping, the forums, etc. I’m sure you’ll make more than just your hosting money back. ;D

38 | Ian

March 4th, 2008 at 9:26 pm

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I regard Entrecard as just a networking opportunity. It allows me to put my relatively new blog out there amongst other bloggers and for me to see other blogs I probably wouldn’t have found otherwise. I don’t see it as a business tool at all.

I’ve found blogs through Entrecard that I would keep visiting even if Entrecard ceased to exist. Its been very useful as a means of finding blogs that I have enjoyed reading (mind you, there’s plenty that I wouldn’t choose to read in a million years!).

Ian’s last blog post..The most versatile word in the English language

39 | Matt Ellsworth

March 14th, 2008 at 12:31 am

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I’m still experimenting with entrecard and I’m happy with it. I bounced between different methods of dropping.

Matt Ellsworth’s last blog post..Matt Bailey discusses SEO, SEM and OSU at SES

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