Singaporean Entrepreneurs

11 Oct, 2008

Entrecard Traffic Experiment Results

Posted by: Singapore Entrepreneur In: Up for Discussion

BACKGROUND
On September 27, I spent 18,000 (+) EC credits advertising on various blogs across the Entrecard Network of blogs. It was meant as an experiment to see what kind of traffic this will generate back to my site. It would, I also thought, put an end to all the conjecture by various EC bloggers and advertisers on whether EC, as it is today, is a proper AD network one can successfully advertise on or NOT.

RESULTS (short version):
(1) Advertising remains too expensive, time consuming, and is a total crapshoot. You really have no idea what you’re getting. I could have spent US$20.00 instead of US$100 and gotten the same results.
(2) Dropping cards is the only sure way to get traffic from EC.

See how seriously screwy the results are:
Ultimately, this was an experiment to determine EC’s ad network value to a commercial advertiser who doesn’t want to drop EC biz cards or participate in the forums to generate return traffic (the only 2 proven ways so far that you will get traffic from EC).

To be considered a successful ad network, the measure I had wanted to use was click thru rate (CTR) and the cost per click (CPC) being equal to (+/- 10%) a similar ad campaign on Google’s Adsense. But as the Google adwords vary in pricing considerably, this was too difficult to compare against 1:1. So I leave it to you, the reader, to decide for yourself whether the results are good enough for you or not.

NUMBERS & MEASURES

  • I spent US$108 (18,000 EC at US$6/1k) for this experiment, not including cost of time having to place adverts one by one.

  • I bought a total of 707 advertisements but am not sure how many actually ran in the end.
  • Average cost per blog: 25ec or US$0.15
  • I bought across several categories, with about 100 from my niche: business.
  • I bought from 4EC all the way to 512EC (roughly 50% are from 16 to 32EC with just a smattering of 128, 256 and 512 blogs which are theoretically supposed to have more readers).
  • I DID NOT check the blogs I advertised on
    (REASON: I did not check because I believe a proper ad network shouldn’t require an advertiser to have to sift through each blog individually if payment up front is expected. They should have already been pre-qualified. Notice that this is different from Google Adwords which doesn’t expect payment just for displaying your ad).
  • For the period of the advertising run: Sept 28 to October 6, 2008

  • I did not drop on people’s blogs.
  • I did not participate in the forums.
  • I did not visit / comment on other EC blogs.
  • RESULTS SUMMARY IN CHART FORM
    While there was obviously much more activity during the period of the ad campaign, the actual numbers are disheartening. Spending 18,000 to get 900 back- or a 5% return, is dismal.
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    ACCORDING TO EC, BELOW ARE THE BLOGS THAT SENT ME THE MOST TRAFFIC
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    As CTR in EC is not qualified, meaning a blogger can just click on the advert on his widget as many times as he wants himself, the following numbers could be totally bogus. If they are not bogus, that means I just wasted a lot of money during this advertising campaign.

    WHAT’S WORSE:
    I checked when the ad purchase for Literatti-An (the highest CTR) went through- September 26. Is that the day it ran or the day the ad was bought or accepted? If it ran on September 26 and it registered 91 CTR, then the graph is wrong because it says on September 26, I only had 6 CTR from my ad placements. I bought the ad for 64 EC, so if that was the date purchased, then that means the ad would have ran on October 1, 2 or 3, depending on when it was approved, which would mean that, yah, 38% of my CTR came from a single blog, and a cheap one at that.

    Interestingly, the second highest CTR is from Manong Ken’s Carinderia and shows that I bought the ad on September 25 for 128, which would mean that the two ads could have possibly ran together. And if they did, that means the two alone gave me 165 clicks (91+74) out of the 240. Mind boggling, don’t you think? I mean, did I just waste A LOT of money? If these stats are correct, yes, in fact, I did.

    STATS TO DRIVE YOU NUTS
    I received a total of 900 clicks.
    Out of this, 422 came from 10 blogs.
    The total credits spent for these 10 blogs is 1,568.

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    In other words, I spent US$9.40 for 422 clicks and then spent another US$98.59 for 478 of the other clicks! That is utter madness.
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    BRANDING DOESN’T HAPPEN IN 24 HOURS
    BUT, you may say, didn’t I get “branding exposure” on all the other sites? I have to disagree. With most blogs carrying 15-20 adverts on their sidebars, a mere 24 hours placement on their blog is not branding.

    PROBLEMS WITH THE CAMPAIGN
    (1) I noticed that during the run there was another EC outage of sorts.
    (2) Many bloggers complained about EC slowing down to a crawl (actually, even until now).
    (3) There was also the problem of the EC card displaying the same ad for more than 48 hours although when you clicked on it, it did link to the right blog. (So yeah, this totally eliminates the “branding theory” given that your biz card doesn’t even show.)
    (4) In the middle of the ad campaign (October 3), I noticed that I still had over 300 pending adverts.
    (5) I did not check the stats everyday so I don’t really know how many ads actually ran in the end. I really don’t want to sit and count the number accepted and rejected in my dashboard.

    BOTTOM LINE: The EC stats are close to worthless because the numbers could be bogus and there is no consolidation of data (ads approved/rejected, when they actually ran) to determine whether an ad campaign has actually met your targets. The only real numbers (I hope) are the Card Drops. I couldn’t do much of a proper analysis of this ad campaign at all in the end.

    GOOGLE ANALYTICS
    I did not see a spike in my traffic during the period, just a blip. The average number of viewers remained at around 300-400 per day. This means that much of the CTR on the graphs probably didn’t go through, i.e., they’re fake. The drops maxed at 190 versus 240 for CTR, so will have to just trust the “drops”. Since my blog already has an average of 15 regular card droppers- that leaves 175 as the highest number of drops resulting from the campaign.

    Averaging out the numbers over the period of the campaign though shows only an additional 80 visitors/day. How many of these are just serial card droppers? No one knows.

    What we do know is that the average bounce rate of this blog over the last six (6) months is 75% with 1.7 pages viewed. For the specific period of September 27 to October 10, it went up to 89.27%, with 1.25 pages viewed.

    CONCLUSION
    At US$6.00/ 1000 EC, an advertiser is better off using Google Adsense as it is apparent that the EC network of blogs has many redundant users dropping on one another. The EC droppers also visit with the specific purpose to drop their card and not much else (evidenced by the spike in the bounce rate from 75% to 89.27% and the drop in average number of pages read).

    Although many would like to claim that it is the bloggers fault for not putting up an interesting enough blog, the fact is, the kind of CTR from EC is very different from someone who sees your ad, clicks on it, with the expectation of exploring more and possibly being converted to a customer. With EC, there is a very specific intent: to drop, to get EC credits. It is akin to someone walking into a restaurant to use the toilet. You don’t blame the joint for not having good enough food, the fact is, that person is not interested at all. They just want to use the toilet.

    Dropping is still the only way to go with EC: I got a 5% return in traffic for advertising. Out of 18,000 (++) spent, a total of 900 dropped for their cards on my blog (aggregate from September 29 to October 6). Compare this against 110 drops and 33 return drops or 30% ROI and you have to conclude that the price of an EC credit (especially if all you want to do is advertise), should be closer to US$0.50/1K.

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    22 Responses to "Entrecard Traffic Experiment Results"

    1 | QuaChee

    October 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

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    ive taken out ec from my blog for now. though i do have a few regulars dropping it, but i find many readers dont have ec.

    also, the advertising rates style – which doesnt depend on traffic but on bloggers buying into yr site, that is not so appealing.

    still a nice idea, but i guess some things need to be improved first :)

    QuaChee´s last blog post..Singlish

    2 | Tom

    October 11th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

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    Well, you did announce in the forums that you were going to do this.

    But I did not see your ad anywhere during your experiment. In my opinion, the best way to advertise is through sites that are actively dropping. You won’t get much from “Just here for the view” blogs.

    Tom´s last blog post..Bananas for Bananas

    3 | A.

    October 11th, 2008 at 6:22 pm

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    Interesting. You ran my ad on 4 October and I got 97 clicks from that, putting you into second place for number of clicks to me. It’s hard to tell from the bar charts they provide, but it looks like that corresponds with at least one of the highest days of clicks to you. That is what I firmly believe happens. There are card droppers from inboxes or other lists, and there are serial droppers who go from ad to ad. Roughly speaking of course, because there are undoubtedly mixtures of the two. Obviously I can’t prove it, and I don’t know that it gets you any further forward, though it’s made me more inclined to go for highest advertisers.

    A.´s last blog post..Bridges Between: Le Pont Couvert

    4 | Canucklehead

    October 12th, 2008 at 10:43 am

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    As an EC fan, I must regretfully admit that your results are in fact, just about what I expected. As many know, I’m not an avid ‘dropper’ and treat it as fun, not a chore – anyway, you would have been better served to keep your money (which I don’t think you actually spent but whatever) and just spent some time on the forums and maybe even made a few friends. Anyway, you seem like a good guy and your blog is great so I suspect you already knew that. If blogging ever becomes anything but fun for me – I quit. That being said, I told you that I would be curious in the results, and I meant it. Anyway, I could go on … but I won’t. Cheers!

    Canucklehead´s last blog post..The Royal Sampler

    5 | Travel Blog

    October 12th, 2008 at 11:43 am

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    I think this post is great. Hard data is difficult to come by.

    If Entrecard wants to be taken seriously as an ad network, they need to have some real data for people to make ad decisions, just as if they were paying money.

    Also, they also need to rethink the one day ad buys.

    They wont come out and say it, but I think they know they are just a traffic exchange site now but don’t want to admit it. They keep going out of their way to make it easier to exchange traffic, but do nothing to improve the advertising part of the system.

    6 | Boss

    October 12th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

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    @Quachee
    I think EC, as mentioned by TRAVEL BLOG, is really just a traffic exchange site and still finding its footing on what it actually wants to be when it grows up.

    @Tom
    Kinda sad but not surprised that you didn’t see my ad- it could possibly be because several hundred were from blogs that don’t really participate in EC, only put a widget, and also because of the glitch with EC (which happened during the campaign) where instead of displaying the advert for the day, it displays the old advert.

    As for choosing those that are actively dropping- I agree, and disagree at the same time. If the return numbers are real and not bogus, my top CTR blogs range from 32 to 256 with most being 128. So yes, buying below 32, especially the 2-8 levels probably is just a great waste. BUT AT THE SAME TIME- the blogs I paid 512 for did not even give me more than 16 drops- and they are the drop masters!

    @A
    Wow, that’s great results. I’m glad you got that much traffic back to your blog. :) I have tried just advertising on the top advertisers and gotten back equally dismal results. It’s a crap shoot really- maybe also because you don’t know when EC is going to have an outage or a massive slow down which is very frequent.

    @Canucklehead
    This experiment, as pointed out, is for potential commercial advertisers on the network. The US$6 equivalent of 1K EC is there because of the monetary value that Graham has put on the EC even though they are selling for US$1/1K on Ebay. It is also to establish, again for potential commercial advertisers, how much it would cost them in dollar terms to get traffic from EC.

    I understand that most bloggers on EC, especially its greatest fans, want it to remain non-commercial, to be filled only with card-dropping, forum-loving, bloggers, but so far that has failed in finding Graham any money to keep the site running. He may just figure it out yet, but some things have to change.

    BTW, I have been on EC longer than you have :). You can check the earlier forum postings where my mug made its presence quite known. I even know you threatened to leave once when with the whole firestorm episode only to come back. I’m only mentioning this because several newer members have also pointed out that I should just make friends in the EC forums. I already have.

    @Travel Blog
    I agree that Graham has to get his head around the advertising bit definitely – either that or find another way to monetize the site. I also agree that 24 hour ad buys are very limiting.

    @Everyone
    I knock EC a lot, but only because I hate the exaggerations that Graham makes, always over-promising and under-delivering. Other than that, I think he’s a great guy trying to make something new work on the web and I only wish him the best and hope he figures out how to make EC profitable or interesting enough for someone who knows what to do with it to buy it over.

    7 | fragileheart

    October 12th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

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    Thanks for conducting this experiment. I still think EC is great for my site, if anything its the best bookmarking/reciprocal visiting system I’ve ever used. Even if they took away drops I think I would stay around just so I could easily visit people who have visited me (even if they haven’t left a comment — because in the past that’s the only way I would’ve known they came around!).

    Great job on the post!

    fragileheart´s last blog post..Monday Madness: Pink for October

    8 | Ken Armstrong

    October 12th, 2008 at 11:07 pm

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    Very interesting. Thanks for taking the trouble to do it and for telling us about it in such great detail.

    My own casual findings would be that some blogs will return good clicks while many will not but the goods and bads will vary depending on circumstances. More expensive ones do better pro-rata in my experience.
    (pretty scientific… not!)

    I also think there is great discussion-value in your ‘toilet in a restaurant’ analogy. It is one of the most provocative and engaging comparisons I have seen on the drop-and-run phenomenon and it is food for thought indeed.

    Ken Armstrong´s last blog post..The Littlest Duet

    9 | uncle sha

    October 13th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

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    Very concise experiment

    I’ve come to a conclusion that I brought more traffic to EC than it does to me … when I previously installed the EC widget

    I’ve long removed it

    uncle sha´s last blog post..The Web Is Like A City

    10 | Healy

    October 15th, 2008 at 12:12 am

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    It is completely appropriate that you tried to run an experiment with your Entrecard advertising – after all, the entire advantage of online advertising is that you can actually do numerical analysis of results in real time.
    However, I’m not sure I agree with your thesis that for an ad network to be effective it then the advertiser should not have to sift through the publishers to find the best ones, “I did not check because I believe a proper ad network shouldn’t require an advertiser to have to sift through each blog individually.” I’ve spent a lot of time with ad agencies digital media arms and with the ad buyers at large corporations in charge of online and mobile advertising – these people DO spend a lot of time thinking about which sites their ads go onto even if they buy the ad space through ad networks. In fact, they pay up for the ability to target their ads on specific sites through ad networks. These are five to seven figure ad campaigns.
    I don’t see why a small business owner shouldn’t be just as focused with their advertisement dollars if they expect to see results. I agree with you that the spray and pray method for EC hasn’t produced for me either. However, after I began to pick individual sites upon which to advertise I’ve consistently gotten good results. Additionally, I’ve found the best results with sites that cost 512 credits or more.
    On the other hand, if time is how your measure your efficiency then the EC system may not be for you, since it does require the upfront blog screening effort.
    -Healy

    Healy´s last blog post..VCs, LPs, startups and money

    11 | amy

    October 15th, 2008 at 11:51 am

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    Thank you for sharing this information. I’m new to the blog world and just figuring this all out…

    amy´s last blog post..My Personal Zoo

    12 | Sonya

    October 16th, 2008 at 2:55 am

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    This was a very informative post. I learned a lot from it as it gave a lot of food for thought. Thanks for including visitors in on your advertising experiment.

    Sonya´s last blog post..Oct 14, Top Droppers for Abstinence Is Sexy

    13 | Joe L.

    October 18th, 2008 at 6:25 am

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    What an outstanding post. I learned more about what EC is — and what it’s not — from your post than I learned from all the published literature on EC, itself.

    I’m a total noob to blogging, so much so that I don’t even know what I don’t know. But EC, right from the get-go, seemed a bit gimmicky. (Which didn’t stop me from trying it, tho, since it wasn’t costing me anything.) After all, there is a difference between navigating to a blog to check it out for its content, and navigating to it merely to drop your card on it (which is why I liked the rest-room analogy).

    I caught myself “serially dropping.” Although, I must admit that in doing so I found a blog or two that interests me enough to go back to check out what’s new.

    One thing that really stuck in my brain — and something that I have not really gotten my brain around, yet — is this comment, which I cut and pasted from the “Advertising” section of the EC help file:

    “You receive the credits from an advertisement when it has completed. You get 25% of the price paid to advertise on your site. The other 75% get deleted from the system to prevent inflation.”

    Who’s the genius who came up with that? Even if you don’t question the wisdom of destroying 75 percent of the virtual currency of EntreCard, where did the 75-percent figure come from? Who’s ass was THAT pulled out of? (Pardon the language; I should have said, “From whose ass was that pulled?”) Why isn’t it 50 percent or 40 or 60 percent? Or 73.2 percent?!

    And how does burning 75 percent of the working capital of the system obviate INFLATION? Reducing the money supply — uh, I mean EC supply — means there are fewer ECs chasing the same number of (or perhaps more) blogs. That’s a recipe for inflation.

    Perhaps that’s why they charge six bucks per thousand EC (which is silly considering you can pay a fraction of that on eBay).

    Joe L.´s last blog post..Cruising: The Great Escape

    14 | Archiver

    October 19th, 2008 at 9:57 pm

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    Good post, thanks. Here is my 2 cents:

    1- In its current form, EC is NOT an ad network but a traffic exchange and I have found it to be a good one as an exchange.
    2- In today’s web, you need a head start to get publicity and some rankings. My blog is roughly two months old, and reached an Alexa rank of 859000, probably will be around 300000 range by the end of 3 months. From this perspective EC has done its job (commercially).
    3- Again from a commercial point of view, traffic exchanges help you achieve some popularity and ranking, and you should not expect more. They help you make friends and find really good sites to read; e.g. I found yours. Knowing this I only use EC, nothing else. Good friends, good reads, some ranking.
    4- How can EC monetize this and stop being an exchange? This, being possibly outside the scope of your post, is also your/our cure. For an ad campaign, we are useless for the advertisers because we are publishers. We and they need OUTSIDE visitors. They should possibly change their tracking system so that one (or an advertiser) can see intra EC and outside traffic. This can be a good start.

    Cheers

    Archiver´s last blog post..A Russian Cigarette Box

    15 | Make a pound

    October 21st, 2008 at 1:36 pm

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    That is a bit crap 18,000 credits and that is all the traffic you got not good at all.

    have you been getting traffic back from google or still not getting any? I still seem to be missing all my traffic :(

    Make a pound´s last blog post..The government wants to know all

    16 | Boss

    October 21st, 2008 at 7:07 pm

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    @Make a pound
    Still gone … :( I don’t know what has happened and why google has yanked my blogs pages off searches.

    17 | Jennifer

    October 27th, 2008 at 12:39 am

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    Good post. My expectations of EC was never anything more than that it was a traffic exchange. My view of traffic exchanges is that it is a way of online marketing and it hopefully will get my blog out there and seen by some people who may not have seen it.

    Anyway I go, it’s still free advertising, so I’ll stick with it for a while longer.

    18 | Bridget

    October 29th, 2008 at 12:45 am

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    Great post, I have often wondered if I should do more than drop cards. Now I know that I do not need to. There is so much to do out there it is nice to get help weeding out the ones that do not give an acceptable ROI.

    Bridget´s last blog post..4 Fit and Healthy Technology Tools

    19 | Joe L.

    November 1st, 2008 at 4:42 am

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    If my wife has told me once, she’s told me a thousand times, “Don’t blog or post comments at two i n morning, and especially don’t do it after more than two drinks.”

    In my last post I had it exactly bass ackwards.

    Reducing artificially the available supply of EC does fight inflation.

    Having said that, I still wonder why it’s necessary to wipe out 75 percent of the EC. If I run an ad on someone else’s blog, it’s a zero-sum game: My account is debited 128 EC, say, and the other guy’s account is credited that amount. No EC have been created.

    On the other hand, dropping cards does create EC out of nothing (as does purchasing them outright). But it would seem to me that the 300EC/day drop limit can keep that in check.

    Joe L.´s last blog post..Norwegian Dawn

    20 | The Fitness Diva

    December 21st, 2008 at 4:38 am

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    Damn! That was pretty educational, and definitely gives one food for thought. But one thing is sure; there’s no way to determine just how legit or accurate any of the results are with all the different factors involved. The ad thing can work, though, depending on what your aim is.

    The real fact is, depending on your niche, ads, and your dropping habits, EC can get you more traffic, but not necessarily the targeted traffic you’re looking for. Still, it’s good for your overall traffic stats, though.

    For those just running personal musings type blogs, no biggie. Their readers find them, water finds its own level, and since they’re not selling a product or building a brand, mission accomplished.

    Looking for CUSTOMERS, though? Well, then, you’re looking in the wrong place, once again, depending on your genre. Like another EC’er once said, we’re like a bunch of bakers trying to sell bread to other bakers.
    I see it more like a bunch of balls trying to find the hoop.

    Great post!

    The Fitness Diva´s last blog post..The Weight of the Holidays…

    21 | John

    January 17th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

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    Interesting results and it confirms what I was thinking. Advertising on Entrecard does not provide a good return without spending a considerable amount of time.

    There are cheap adverts which consistently get a high number of unique click thrus. The problem is finding them in the first place.

    John´s last blog post..Cocoon Cave, Beacon Scar, Yorkshire Dales

    22 | Jolie du Pre

    January 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm

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    The best way for me to know if something works is to do it. I’ve been on Entrecard for about a month, and it’s bringing readers to my blog. Period. End of story.

    Jolie du Pre´s last blog post..Guide to Lesbian and Female Sex Toys

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